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MSecorsky · Aug 09, 2005, 07:40 PM // 19:40

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Originally Posted by Xellos

My link shows features that the old beta had that would definately add to the experience of Guild Wars, and in some ways makes it sound even better then the current Guild Wars. Sorry, but this is a classic case of SC vs Wc3. SC wins.

Hey, let a guy get nostalgic there, would ya?

OK... you got me...

What's SC vs Wc3?

Phades · Aug 09, 2005, 07:41 PM // 19:41

Star craft versus warcraft 3.

MSecorsky · Aug 09, 2005, 07:42 PM // 19:42

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Originally Posted by Phades

Star craft versus warcraft 3.

But aren't we talking about Guild Wars?

Nizzim · Aug 09, 2005, 07:43 PM // 19:43

no, not anymore

I understand GW thinks that this method of anew game design is effective, but after a while it just isnt.

Theres a reason games with the mechanics like WoW work so well, because those mechanics are the perfect recipe for a great fun game.

Xellos · Aug 09, 2005, 07:48 PM // 19:48

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Originally Posted by MSecorsky

But aren't we talking about Guild Wars?

You need to learn how to work analogies dude.

Sc vs Wc3 is the analogy of Guild Wars beta vs current Guild Wars. The old one still had more draw. Did you even look at the link I gave? Caravan attacks? Destroyable objects? Taking advantage of streaming technology instead of sitting on your asses? The old version had things that the current version NEEDS. Anet is being an ass by not putting them in.

MSecorsky · Aug 09, 2005, 07:49 PM // 19:49

You know... I came so close to buying WoW... until I saw that the only way to play it was to pay them monthly for a game that you paid them to leave the store with in the first place. Principle thing.

So Nizzy, when you go home and fire up the ol' puter, what game do you launch?

Nizzim · Aug 09, 2005, 07:54 PM // 19:54

i dont fire up many games anymore

But WoW is honestly worth that 15 a month.

Its supply and demand, in wow, they demand new things, and the devs supply them, almost constantly.

Maybe Anet needs more employers

you called me nizzy, hahah, thats the first time someones called me that in a while

MSecorsky · Aug 09, 2005, 07:59 PM // 19:59

No offense on the Nizzy... I have an African Grey, Gizmo. We call her gizzy... your name just strikes that up in my head.

Edit: We also call her Gizzypoo... but I just couldn't.

Checked out the linked video. Interesting to see the differences inthe interfaces and the like. Missed the part about the caravans and such, but the puter at work here has a crappy speaker, so could barely make out what he was saying.

Nizzim · Aug 09, 2005, 08:01 PM // 20:01

well nonetheless the beta videos looks like much more fun that this version, sigh

MSecorsky · Aug 09, 2005, 08:03 PM // 20:03

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Originally Posted by Nizzim

well nonetheless the beta videos looks like much more fun that this version, sigh

It really looked the same to me, just different location killing monsters. Not really telling enough for someone who never did the beta to judge one over the other.

Xellos · Aug 09, 2005, 08:12 PM // 20:12

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Originally Posted by MSecorsky

It really looked the same to me, just different location killing monsters. Not really telling enough for someone who never did the beta to judge one over the other.

Watch it again, maybe like uh, listen to what they say? Destroyable doodads? More pvp scenarios? Please I've repeated this over 100x.

Mormegil · Aug 09, 2005, 08:13 PM // 20:13

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Originally Posted by MSecorsky

It really looked the same to me, just different location killing monsters. Not really telling enough for someone who never did the beta to judge one over the other.

It does look the same, more or less. But WoW fanboys always have some time to spare us some negativity about Guild Wars.

Yes, the devs make promises before their games go retail. Not always they release exactly what we're expecting.

Nizzim, mind if I ask you where's the link where Blizzard promises hundreds of 15 yrs old kiddies lvl 45 that kill low lvl players in the early zones of the game while yelling "OMFG I'm so leet and will pwn you stupid noob!!11!!"? Mind giving me the link where Blizzard promises horrible pvp lagfest in that mediocre update called Battleground? And where did Blizzard promise you could kill a mob 6 feet behind you swinging your blocky tauren hammer in the air like a perfect idiot?

One could say that Blizzard takes promises seriously.

Charcoal Ann · Aug 09, 2005, 08:24 PM // 20:24

ANYWAY, back on track eh guys?

I have been on this game since release and i had no real qualms at that point and still i have no qualms. i have played enough games to know that this is a bloody good game and this add-on looks to be more of out of this same gold mine of joy that the entire game seems to have risen from. i was thinking that maybe the entrance to the footprint will be through that big temple to grenth... in snake dance i think?
Another thing you seem to be likening the furnace to the catacombs... does this mean there could be MULTIPLE entrances?

Nizzim · Aug 09, 2005, 08:30 PM // 20:30

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Originally Posted by Mormegil

It does look the same, more or less. But WoW fanboys always have some time to spare us some negativity about Guild Wars.

Yes, the devs make promises before their games go retail. Not always they release exactly what we're expecting.

Nizzim, mind if I ask you where's the link where Blizzard promises hundreds of 15 yrs old kiddies lvl 45 that kill low lvl players in the early zones of the game while yelling "OMFG I'm so leet and will pwn you stupid noob!!11!!"? Mind giving me the link where Blizzard promises horrible pvp lagfest in that mediocre update called Battleground? And where did Blizzard promise you could kill a mob 6 feet behind you swinging your blocky tauren hammer in the air like a perfect idiot?

One could say that Blizzard takes promises seriously.

....where does this mention any of those

Ive never played WoW but ive watched and i had more fun watching WoW than i have playing GW

Mormegil · Aug 09, 2005, 08:36 PM // 20:36

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Originally Posted by Nizzim

....where does this mention any of those

Ive never played WoW but ive watched and i had more fun watching WoW than i have playing GW

So a couple of posts ago you stated that 15$ a week are worth spending on WoW just because you "watched it in action" and looked more fun than GW. Now I'm wondering why I even took the time to answer you and back up my opinions on WoW with solid reasons.

To get back on track, I totally agree with Charcoal Ann, with a little difference...I really wanted the new area to at least look like a dungeon. Apparently, it doesn't. There's no catacombish like scenery in GW, and maybe there will never be. Bad.

Aug 09, 2005, 08:38 PM // 20:38

Screw that shit. Play Starcraft. Atleast in the "PvE" mode for Brood War you can mind control BattleCruisers. Talk about streaming tech omgz!

Nizzim · Aug 09, 2005, 08:39 PM // 20:39

i would honestly play WoW if i had the money and computer

im not bashing GW, imjust saying, games shouldnt be released half-ass

Xpacks should take 6 months to make and should show 6 months of work, this took 3 months to make, maybe more since its been talked about almost since release, and only shows a month of work or so.

I hope the videos dont do it a justice, cuz thats not a very good justice

Charcoal Ann · Aug 09, 2005, 08:46 PM // 20:46

Ok Nizz you have 6 months to make a better game than GW.

Not very good? not that long ago Pong was state of the art!

Maybe GW is just not for you...like miniskirts just don't suit me ^^

Please get back on track i didn't read 5 pages of this just to hear you groan. i read it to hear comments on the film and i have heard you more than enough now.

Film Looks Cool

Forboding Angel · Aug 09, 2005, 08:49 PM // 20:49

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Originally Posted by Rayea

well, i cant dl the vid, mainly cause i dont wanna screw up my machine by adding the roxio content that the latest versions of media player add, and Divx, pff, no thanks my macine dosent like them, but it *sounds* interesting, from everyones comments

reading the part from the state of he game letter, it sounds to me, like most if not all of sorows furnace will be mainly for accended people.

guess the guys in Dev have got to go with the largest groups, and all the folks that ran ahead <not mean like running, just meant like got there faster than me and mine> would need somehting to keep then playing other thn spanking peeps in the PvP arena and so forth.^^;

still, hopeing that those that havent quite managed to get to acention will still at least be able to wander round the town/outpost part once they get there....that, for me, is the more important part, compared to the missions ect, i just like to travel to a new area in the game and look around.

guess there should be a new class, Tourist

Good lord people, get rid of the codecs and download VLC MEDIA PLAYER. It can play anything and you don't need codecs for it.

Phades · Aug 09, 2005, 08:51 PM // 20:51

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Originally Posted by Charcoal Ann

Not very good? not that long ago Pong was state of the art!

Once upon a time people walked and if they were lucky/rich they had a horse. That doesn't mean demanding planes that don't crash or fuel efficient or alternative fuel motor vehicles is not valid.

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Originally Posted by Mormegil

There's no catacombish like scenery in GW, and maybe there will never be. Bad.

You could always go back to pre-searing.